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Barry Sheene tested a Surtees in 1978....
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...an Arrows in 1979...
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...and a Brabham in 1985.
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Stirling Moss in BTCC 1980 driving the Audi 80 GLE. The other pic posted few months back was from 1981. The Akai sponsorship is from the 1980 season.

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Martin Brundle in 1977 British Saloon Car Championship (Toyota Celica GT @ Brands Hatch). It was his first season in "senior" racing category of any kind.

Mind you, Brundle drove three full-time seasons in BSCC and five in total before switching to open-wheel Formula 3 in 1982.

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Vassago wrote: 4 months ago Martin Brundle in 1977 British Saloon Car Championship (Toyota Celica GT @ Brands Hatch). It was his first season in "senior" racing category of any kind.

Mind you, Brundle drove three full-time seasons in BSCC and five in total before switching to open-wheel Formula 3 in 1982.

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The Brundle family for decades owned a large and successful Toyota Dealership in Kings Lynne. I think Martin and his brother Robin took over from their Father who had set it up, and only closed it down in the early noughties of this millennium when Toyota reduced their number of dealerships and went with a strategy of fewer larger distributors in major cities only. Martin and Robin had expanded from the early Toyota days to more recently include Peugeot, Skoda, Honda but they all suffered the same fate. When Martin became more motor racing as a career he still remained a Director and involved but Robin ran it day to day.
After losing the other dealerships they continued with their VW dealership in the area though I think that was only sold a decade (probably longer than that) or so ago, thus ending some 4 decades of Brundle Family car retailing and body repair shops in the area..

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 4 months ago
Vassago wrote: 4 months ago Martin Brundle in 1977 British Saloon Car Championship (Toyota Celica GT @ Brands Hatch). It was his first season in "senior" racing category of any kind.

Mind you, Brundle drove three full-time seasons in BSCC and five in total before switching to open-wheel Formula 3 in 1982.

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The Brundle family for decades owned a large and successful Toyota Dealership in Kings Lynne. I think Martin and his brother Robin took over from their Father who had set it up, and only closed it down in the early noughties of this millennium when Toyota reduced their number of dealerships and went with a strategy of fewer larger distributors in major cities only. Martin and Robin had expanded from the early Toyota days to more recently include Peugeot, Skoda, Honda but they all suffered the same fate. When Martin became more motor racing as a career he still remained a Director and involved but Robin ran it day to day.
After losing the other dealerships they continued with their VW dealership in the area though I think that was only sold a decade (probably longer than that) or so ago, thus ending some 4 decades of Brundle Family car retailing and body repair shops in the area..
I did a bit of research to see whether there was any help from Toyota or whether it was all family money that started his journey.... This is the relevant extract from a "Lunch with Martin Brundle" interview back in 2007. It turns out it was very much a self / Family business type of exercise done very much on the cheap!

I have included how he went from BTCC to F3 simply because its a great story, highlighting how things would often be done back in the day.... albeit one filled with ups and downs, tragedy and good luck..
Martin never had the funds as a child to go karting, but he scraped together an old wreck of a Ford Anglia in his pre-teen years and did banger racing on a local grass track. When he was 17 he saw an ad selling off the BTCC Toyota team – two Celicas and a transporter – and persuaded his father to HP the lot through the garage business. “We put the transporter on the books as a breakdown truck, and the two racers as demonstrators. Dad rallied one, and I raced the other – got my six signatures, and did a BTCC season for £3000.
A local building firm helped me do some FF2000, and then I wrote to Tom Walkinshaw. ‘Dear Mr Walkinshaw, I’m going to be a top driver. Please let me race one of your BMWs.’ It scares me to think what might have happened if I hadn’t written that letter.”

Walkinshaw was running the BMW County Championship, with identical 323i saloons and drivers like Derek Bell, Andy Rouse, Barrie Williams and Nigel Mansell. Martin drove the Norfolk car six times, winning twice and always finishing in the top three except once when he was slowed by a puncture. The Norfolk car won the championship. In 1981 Tom set up a two-car BTCC team for Audi, with Stirling Moss making a comeback to drive one car, and he offered the other to Martin.

“I was so stupid that year. All I wanted to do was blow Stirling’s doors off. I should have embraced the privilege of being his team-mate, stolen every bit of knowledge and experience I could from him. I thought it didn’t apply because we were from different eras. I was 21, he was 51, he didn’t know slicks or front-wheel drive – but I remember one time at Brands when it rained and there was no grip. He was simply mighty, in a class of his own. I’m immensely lucky to count Stirling and Susie as good friends now, but I still give myself a hard time over that year. It was just the arrogance of youth.”

Then BP took him into F3 with a Dave Price-run car. “I smashed the car up at Mallory, and then I smashed it up again at Dijon, on the way to Monaco. Pricey is no shrinking violet when it comes to telling his drivers off, and at Monaco he made me drive the van. My self-confidence was at an all-time low. In a hotel room outside Dijon I told my wife Liz I was giving up, but she talked me into carrying on. The next race was Oulton Park, and I just relaxed, felt I had nothing to lose. So I put it on pole and won by half a lap. I was on pole for every race for the rest of the season, and then I got the top Grovewood Award, which was £5000.

“For 1983 Pricey had nothing for me, so he sent me to see an Irishman called Eddie Jordan who was based at Silverstone. I gave Eddie my five grand, I gave him an old Citroën off Dad’s forecourt, and a friend gave him a Toyota truck which I personally sprayed, and we had an F3 team. There was some Racing for Britain money as well, but basically we were potless. Eddie hustled brilliantly, always pulling strokes. Every time I went to Silverstone I had to call in on the Allied Irish Bank in Northampton to pop in some cash we’d scraped together, or tell them there’d be some cash next time I called.

“On the way back from the Austrian GP support race, which we won, the transporter went off the side of a mountain. My mechanic Rob Bowden was killed, and the cars and equipment were all wrecked. It was a very cruel time. But with the help of a lot of people – Ron Tauranac, Tim Clowes and many others – the team was at the next round two weeks later, with everything immaculately turned out.
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Having a debut at 19 in saloon cars at the time was highly unusual even if one had family money. Some ten years later I believe Tim Harvey was the youngest driver at 25 in his rookie season and possibly the only full-time driver below age 30 IIRC.
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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 4 months ago
Vassago wrote: 4 months ago Martin Brundle in 1977 British Saloon Car Championship (Toyota Celica GT @ Brands Hatch). It was his first season in "senior" racing category of any kind.

Mind you, Brundle drove three full-time seasons in BSCC and five in total before switching to open-wheel Formula 3 in 1982.

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The Brundle family for decades owned a large and successful Toyota Dealership in Kings Lynne. I think Martin and his brother Robin took over from their Father who had set it up, and only closed it down in the early noughties of this millennium when Toyota reduced their number of dealerships and went with a strategy of fewer larger distributors in major cities only. Martin and Robin had expanded from the early Toyota days to more recently include Peugeot, Skoda, Honda but they all suffered the same fate. When Martin became more motor racing as a career he still remained a Director and involved but Robin ran it day to day.
After losing the other dealerships they continued with their VW dealership in the area though I think that was only sold a decade (probably longer than that) or so ago, thus ending some 4 decades of Brundle Family car retailing and body repair shops in the area..
Martin ran a FF2000 before going into F3 with help from garage mechanic Arthur Coleman, his former hot rod mechanic, besides me, was Bob Beckett who I think may have had a hand in it too. His father John ran rally cars for several years often competing in Rallycross at Snetterton. He ran a Triumph 2.5 PI and later promoted Toyotas running Celicas with input from Toyota GB. Martin's early Celica was the one that Win Percy ran. John had a Garage at West Lynn before aquiring the one at Tottenhill so the history goes back a bit futher.
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Not much a question of who but the fact DHL wasn't always yellow & red livery. Georg Severich in DTM 1994 (obviously Norisring). Teammate Rudiger Schmitt drove the same white & red DHL livery.

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Vassago wrote: 2 months ago Not much a question of who but the fact DHL wasn't always yellow & red livery. Georg Severich in DTM 1994 (obviously Norisring). Teammate Rudiger Schmitt drove the same white & red DHL livery.

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Knowing you love of pink liveries (not!) I could not resist posting this Pink DHL one off livery....

Multitime world championship-winning team Kalitta Motorsports again joined those supporting breast cancer awareness throughout the month of October, (2022) along with primary sponsors DHL and CMR Construction and Roofing.

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One more DTM for @EversoBiggyballies as Wayne Gardner tries it on two wheels at Hockenheim in 1992 :tongue: You could always pick out the Jagermeister livery out of 40 car field in the early 1990s :wink:

That's a Linder BMW, basically like a fourth team on the BMW pecking order behind Schnitzer, Bigazzi and Zakspeed (which switched to Mercedes in 1991).

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AMA motorcycle racer/1975 Daytona 200 champion Gene Romero attempted (but failed) to qualify for the 1979 National 500 NASCAR Winston Cup event at Charlotte. He previously made a start at the NASCAR race in Ontario Motor Speedway in 1972.

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Mark Skaife had a run in the Jordan 192 around the car park of the Colonnades shopping centre ahead of the 1992 Australian Grand Prix.
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Nelson Piquet drove the Brabham BT46B "fan-car" in the Gunnar Nilsson Memorial Trophy at Donington Park in 1979.
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works for me.

The actual Gunnar Nilsson Trophy itself was a bit of a non event in the end with no actual race per se. Only 5 cars in it, and it ended up being each car doing a series of 5 timed laps against the clock. The event was planned as a non-championship F1 race, with a full grid, but the FIA refused to recognise the event and most of the teams withdrew leaving just 5 cars.

Jones recorded the fastest lap in a Williams.
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A bit of trivia for you is that, from all accounts it was the the last time Hunt competed in an F1 car, who retired from racing immediately afterwards
(This Donington weekend was on the 2-3rd June 1979, the weekend after Hunts final GP at Monaco the weekend prior.)

James did partake in the one off Mercedes Coswork 'Race of Champions' saloon car race to launch the new neutered Nurburgring short track that F1 started to then use. (Pics and details follow in a couple of posts

1. Alan Jones, Williams FW07, 1'01.37
2. James Hunt, Wolf WR8, 1'02.54
3. Mario Andretti, Lotus 79, 1'02.67
4. Nelson Piquet, Brabham BT46B, 1'03.61
5. Rupert Keegan, Arrows A1B, 1'05.09

There was however other races at the meeting, a (non championship) BMW M1 Procar race (won by Piquet) a non championship F3 race, a BMW "Celebrity" race won by Martin Brundle and a demonstration of Historic F1 cars which included Fangio, then near 70 years old, in the Mercedes Benz W125 Others in the Historic demo were Denny Hulme on a Cooper-Climax, Dan Gurney in a BRM P25, and Jackie Stewart in a Tyrrell 006/2. Also in that was Beatle George Harrison, who drove Stirling Moss's 1961 Lotus 18.

George Harrisson and Jackie Stewart did a TV interview at Donington which, other than confirming what a wonderful person Gunnar was, also heavily promoted the Gunnar Nilsson Memorial Cancer Foundation, set up by Gunnar himself in the final weeks of his life before he died, to generate funds for cancer research.

At the same time George Harrison's famous "Faster" single was released with proceeds from the record sales donated to Gunnar's fund


Anyway another of the Brabham from Donington that weekend, with Piquet at the wheel..... not the best quality but....



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