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We head to a night race this time in my last write up for you. I know, it's a relief isn't it? ;) Here's the full title of this race for you:

Formula 1 Singapore Airlines Singapore Grand Prix 2024

Singapore has a twisty, turny track, it's also a night race and it is one place where we know for sure that the Red Bull car has struggled over the last couple of years, so I guess we can expect to see more of the issues we've already seen the team have lately this season. Verstappen and Red Bull have even more competition this year than they did last year and we know this track hasn't suited their car, so it could be painful for them again this year potentially. If their car is no better here than it was in the last two seasons, they will be lucky to score points, let alone get on the podium I'd say. Leclerc will be itching to make up for losing to Piastri in Baku. Perez will no doubt be looking to make things up to the Red Bull team after that coming together with Sainz in Baku, (which I note is still being discussed). Norris will be hoping for a better qualifying and Max Verstappen will be hoping for a better car. Whether any of these things will happen or not, we'll have to wait and see I guess. Only Piastri, of the front runners, can go into this race with a big smile on his face and nothing to regret from the last race. McLaren lead the constructors championship and they will look to maintain that lead if at all possible. They have two good drivers who will give it their all to make it happen, you can bet on that, even if Ferrari do try and spoil their party.


When was the track built?

The Marina Bay Circuit arrived on the scene in 2008. A street track with the city's famous skyline as its spectacular backdrop, the initial circuit plan by Herman Tilke was refined by KBR Inc, while the event has quickly established itself as one of the standouts on the F1 calendar. There were some amendments made to it in 2023 as well.

When was its first Grand Prix?

In 2008, Singapore had the honour of hosting the first night-time race in F1 history. The Grand Prix – the 15th round of that season – proved a huge hit with the teams and drivers, while Renault’s Fernando Alonso claimed a controversial victory after the infamous crash-gate incident.

What’s the circuit like?

The Marina Bay Circuit is one of the most physically demanding on the calendar, its bumpy street surface coupled with humid conditions giving the drivers plenty to think about. Even with a revised 2023 layout reducing the number of corners from 23 to 19, they are working the wheel a lot, too, around the high-speed lap – the physical stress causing them to lose as much as 3kg in body weight over the course of a race.


First Grand Prix

2008

Number of Laps

62

Circuit Length

4.94 km

Race Distance

306.143 km

Lap Record

1:35.867Lewis Hamilton (2023)


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What happened last year?

The 2023 Singapore Grand Prix was held on 17 September 2023 at the Marina Bay Street Circuit in Marina Bay, Singapore and was the 15th round of the season. At this point in time, Max Verstappen led the Championship by 145 points from Sergio Perez, with Fernando Alonso in 3rd, another 49 points behind. Red Bull had a massive lead of 310 in the Constructors' Championship ahead of Mercedes, with Ferrari another 45 points behind. Red Bull could also have tied up the championship at this race but it wasn't to be as the Red Bull advantage they had enjoyed elsewhere just wasn't with them at this track.


The drivers and teams were initially the same as the season entry list, with the exception of Liam Lawson, who was still subbing in for the injured Ricciardo in the seat which had originally been held by Nyck de Vries.

FP1 saw Charles Leclerc topping the session, with Carlos Sainz 2nd and Max Verstappen 3rd. In FP2, the Ferrari boys were still 1st and 2nd but Carlos Sainz edged his teammate to be fastest. George Russell was 3rd. On the Saturday, Carlos Sainz took 1st on the timesheets ahead of George Russell in 2nd and Lando Norris in 3rd when they had FP3.

Qualifying

In Q1 Yuki Tsunoda had the fastest time ahead of Sergio Perez and Nico Hülkenberg after a heavy crash for Lance Stroll brought out the red flag in the closing moments. That was the end of Stroll's weekend, even though he was deemed fit to race after being checked out at the medical centre. Q2 was headed by Carlos Sainz, with George Russell 2nd and Fernando Alonso taking 3rd. The most remarkable thing being that both Red Bulls went out in this round. Liam Lawson was the person who dropped Max Verstappen out with a time that was 0.007 faster. It was the first time that neither Red Bull made it into Q3 since the Russian GP in 2018. Q3 saw Sainz take pole position ahead of George Russell and Charles Leclerc, his and Ferrari's second consecutive pole after doing the same thing at the Italian Grand Prix. Following qualifying, Max Verstappen and Logan Sargeant were given reprimands for various impeding incidents.

Race


Lance Stroll withdrew before the race following his qualifying crash and Zhou Guanyu started the race from the pit lane due to power unit changes.

At the race start, Carlos Sainz held the lead and Charles Leclerc got ahead of George Russell to take second place thanks to his choice of soft tyres. Russell's teammate Lewis Hamilton took to the turn 1 run-off and was noted by the stewards for gaining an advantage, so he had to give back to Russell the position he'd gained.

Yuki Tsunoda suffered a puncture early in the race after a coming together with Sergio Perez, he retired on lap 1 due to damage to his sidepods. He parked his car safely behind the barriers. His retirement triggered a yellow flag for a brief time. Not long after that incident happened, Logan Sargeant crashed into a barrier and broke his front wing. He limped back to the pit lane while his car threw debris onto the track, that triggered a safety car. Red Bull decided not to pit their drivers during the safety car, that meant both were running on older hard tyres at the restart. As a result, George Russell, Lando Norris, and Hamilton were quickly able to pass Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen, who were both struggling. Verstappen and Perez were forced to come into the pits, coming out 15th and 18th respectively. They were able to recover to 5th and 8th by the end of the race. The race resumed with Sainz holding his lead. A few laps later, Esteban Ocon stopped on track with a gearbox issue, this only triggered a virtual safety car. Mercedes took advantage of this and double-stacked their drivers in the pits. Fernando Alonso, who gained a penalty during the earlier safety car, due to crossing the pit entry line, had a slow stop, leaving him last. Russell and Hamilton both passed Leclerc to claim 3rd and 4th respectively.

As the race entered the closing stages, Carlos Sainz cleverly allowed Lando Norris, running in 2nd at this point, to remain within DRS range. That made it almost impossible for Russell and Hamilton (3rd & 4th) to overtake Norris and therefore challenge Sainz for the lead. On the final lap, George Russell seemingly got frustrated and clipped the wall which broke his suspension. This caused him to slam into the wall at turn 10 and ended his podium hopes. Lando Norris had clipped the same wall just before George Russell's crash but he was luckier and his car was undamaged. Having led the entire race, Sainz took the win. It was his first since the 2022 British Grand Prix and Ferrari's first since the 2022 Austrian Grand Prix. It broke the Max Verstappen and Red Bull's winning streak. Lando Norris was 2nd, with Lewis Hamilton in 3rd place. In only his 3rd F1 race, Liam Lawson was 9th scoring his maiden points for AlphaTauri. Max Verstappen's 5th place was the only race where he did not finish on the podium for the entire 2023 season.


The timetable for this race is as follows, all times are local to Marina Bay.

Friday 20th September

Practice 1 17:30 - 18:30

Practice 2 21:00 - 22:00

Saturday 21st September

Practice 3 17:30 - 18:30

Qualifying 21:00 - 22:00

Sunday 22nd September

Race 20:00


As happens in this part of the world, there is a high chance of high humidity and therefore, heavy showers of rain. We all know that when it comes down here, it buckets down, so good luck to all of those playing Guess The Pole ;)


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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago
Star wrote: 2 weeks ago
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Very much enjoyed your input and thanks very much for taking on the task on my behalf. :bow: :mates: :twothumbs:
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RB unveils Hugo-designed denim livery for Singapore F1 GP


RB will race at the the Singapore Grand Prix with a denim-effect special livery, which has been designed by team sponsor and fashion brand Hugo for the night-time Formula 1 race.

The car features a light-blue, stonewashed denim overlay on the nose and the sidepods, detailed by tears and frayed edges. This is contrasted by a darker blue denim wrap on the endplates and in the space usually occupied by the white flash on the regular livery: atop the chassis and down the flanks.

A stitching effect has also been incorporated into the design to link the two colours together. The usual metallic blue and silver scheme remains in place around the cockpit, halo, and engine cover.

The team logo is also 'branded' onto a leather-effect path on the nose and rear wing endplate, while fans of the 1999 BAR livery will welcome the return of a zip to F1 design as this features along the top of the sidepods.

The denim motif will continue into the design of RB's pit garage furniture, while both Daniel Ricciardo and Yuki Tsunoda will drive in special race suits throughout the weekend.

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Mercedes reveals one-off green and black Singapore livery


Another livery change for the night race.....The Silver Arrows trade silver for green to celebrate partner Petronas at the South East Asian round..

Mercedes has unveiled a one-off livery for Formula 1's Singapore Grand Prix to celebrate its title partner Petronas' 50th anniversary.

The W15 car that Lewis Hamilton and George Russell will drive through the streets of Singapore will have its silver nose and sidepod replaced by Petronas' emerald green. The rest of the car remains in painted black or naked carbon fibre, with INEOS' dark red accents also staying unchanged.

Energy giant Petronas is based in neighbouring Malaysia, making Singapore the closest Mercedes' title sponsor has to a home race. Alongside being a main sponsor, Petronas has also been supplying Mercedes with oil and lubricants since its works return in 2010.


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Interestingly at the same time Red Bull have dropped plans for livery changes because of the additional weight factor.

Red Bull has had to abandon plans for fan-inspired livery takeovers at the Singapore and USA grands prix because of concerns about the extra weight of new paint schemes.

RB had invited its followers to come up with bespoke livery designs that would be run at the British, Singapore and USA races this season.

Winners would not only get to see their ideas realised on the actual RB20 cars but would also attend the races as special guests of the team.

The first design duly ran at Silverstone this year but, amid the growing reality of a super close fight with McLaren and Ferrari for the world championship, a change of plan has been made ahead of this weekend’s race in Singapore.

During the concept phase of creating the livery that was being planned for Singapore on a real car at the factory, it was found that the paint scheme added around 1kg of weight to the RB20.

While the performance difference is only worth around 0.03 seconds per lap, based on how close things are at the front of the grid the team concluded it could not risk compromising its championship efforts because of a marketing campaign.
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FIA adds fourth DRS zone for Singapore GP

The FIA has decided to add a fourth DRS zone to the Marina Bay circuit for Formula 1's return to the Singapore Grand Prix.
Following a layout change to the circuit ahead of the 2023 event, the FIA had consulted the teams about the possible addition of the DRS zone, but the ruling body said there had been no "clear consensus, and following safety simulations, it was decided that we wouldn't take the matter any further."

But that has changed for this weekend's event, with a fourth zone added to the configuration.

Between Turns 14 and 16, a straight - with the Turn 15 kink - replaced the former 'grandstand' section of the circuit, owing to construction work. This will now be the home of the fourth DRS zone.

This creates a double dose of DRS with the zone between Turns 13 and 14, hopefully providing better overtaking opportunities at a track where trains of cars following one another have become the norm.

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago RB unveils Hugo-designed denim livery for Singapore F1 GP
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The denim motif will continue into the design of RB's pit garage furniture, while both Daniel Ricciardo and Yuki Tsunoda will drive in special race suits throughout the weekend.


So Danny Ric will not be replaced at this round as reported ?


Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago FIA adds fourth DRS zone for Singapore GP

The FIA has decided to add a fourth DRS zone to the Marina Bay circuit for Formula 1's return to the Singapore Grand Prix.
Following a layout change to the circuit ahead of the 2023 event, the FIA had consulted the teams about the possible addition of the DRS zone, but the ruling body said there had been no "clear consensus, and following safety simulations, it was decided that we wouldn't take the matter any further."

But that has changed for this weekend's event, with a fourth zone added to the configuration.

Between Turns 14 and 16, a straight - with the Turn 15 kink - replaced the former 'grandstand' section of the circuit, owing to construction work. This will now be the home of the fourth DRS zone.

This creates a double dose of DRS with the zone between Turns 13 and 14, hopefully providing better overtaking opportunities at a track where trains of cars following one another have become the norm.


Do we know if this DRS zone will be available during Qualifying?
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XcraigX wrote: 2 weeks ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago RB unveils Hugo-designed denim livery for Singapore F1 GP
.....

The denim motif will continue into the design of RB's pit garage furniture, while both Daniel Ricciardo and Yuki Tsunoda will drive in special race suits throughout the weekend.
So Danny Ric will not be replaced at this round as reported ?

Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago FIA adds fourth DRS zone for Singapore GP

The FIA has decided to add a fourth DRS zone to the Marina Bay circuit for Formula 1's return to the Singapore Grand Prix.
Following a layout change to the circuit ahead of the 2023 event, the FIA had consulted the teams about the possible addition of the DRS zone, but the ruling body said there had been no "clear consensus, and following safety simulations, it was decided that we wouldn't take the matter any further."

But that has changed for this weekend's event, with a fourth zone added to the configuration.

Between Turns 14 and 16, a straight - with the Turn 15 kink - replaced the former 'grandstand' section of the circuit, owing to construction work. This will now be the home of the fourth DRS zone.

This creates a double dose of DRS with the zone between Turns 13 and 14, hopefully providing better overtaking opportunities at a track where trains of cars following one another have become the norm.
Do we know if this DRS zone will be available during Qualifying?
Re DannyRic it seems he is safe for this week ...... however Marko has said expecct to hear something on their second driver between Singapore and Austin. Given in the Driver Market thread, and the post I made regarding a podcast Lawson has just made for Red Bull it seems he is in for sure for '25 but the rumour is that Danny is done and will be replaced for Austin.

Re the 4th DRS zone I believe it is in for the weekend, I think the reference to FP1 I have read is actually related to last year. Apparently it was raised by drivers as a thought after them trying the 2023 new/revised layout on sims. However there were some concerns re a bump in the sims and it never got tried last year. In reality the alleged bump on track in the section did not materialise as a factor and it seems might have been a glitch in the track scanning used for the sim..

There was some discussion about trying it for P1 last year but it never got past the discussion.

My understanding it is in for the weekend this year. After a bit for research I have discovered that the 4th zone does not have its own detection point but uses the same detection zone as the 3rd zone.t meaning the driver under one second behind heading into the second detection point over the Anderson Bridge [Turn 12] will have a double helping of DRS.


EDIT: Just had a look on the FIA website and their track map for the weekend shows a 4th detection zone if you look carefully, so conflicting to what I read elsewhere.

Here is the FIA track map for this year with the zones shown. It shows a zone 4th activation point close to the chequered flag.

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Another new Singapore Livery.... this one McLaren.


McLaren has revealed its second special 'Legend Reborn' retro livery of the season ahead of the Singapore Grand Prix.

The Woking-based outfit has worked with sponsor OKX to create a bespoke series of paint schemes that helped celebrate the team's iconic MP4 livery from 1981 to 1996.

With the team having run an Ayrton Senna-inspired livery at the Monaco Grand Prix, its Singapore revamp harks back to the era when the car's trademark look revolved around its red-and-white Marlboro sponsorship.

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I like papayas fruits, but the same colour on the car is not my thing, yet there is something to it, and good to have on the car in race, say experts. I do recall decades old analysis which rated this colour as best in terms of visibility in abnormal road conditions. I wonder if it makes any difference in night racing under the lights.

I had fun when Max was winning, and now Mr. Everso took over as his guy is shining. (I hope not for too long.) :smiley:
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Aty wrote: 2 weeks ago I like papayas fruits, but the same colour on the car is not my thing, yet there is something to it, and good to have on the car in race, say experts. I do recall decades old analysis which rated this colour as best in terms of visibility in abnormal road conditions. I wonder if it makes any difference in night racing under the lights.

I had fun when Max was winning, and now Mr. Everso took over as his guy is shining. (I hope not for too long.) :smiley:
I dont really have a driver I like over others by any margin. I like Norris.... perhaps because may years ago when as a junior I picked him as a future star in the making. I was impressed by him when he drove Formula Toyota in New Zealand back in I would say early 2016. I made comment here on the forum. I am aware that he had a lot of family wealth invested in him which detracts a bit. I like Albon as I think he is a nice guy I like Piastri as he is from a nearby suburb in Melbourne to where I live. I like Sergio for reasons I dont know. KMag the same, and to an extent Hulkenberg. I quite like Max and admire his undoubted talents, although I see flaws in his greatness. I like Alonso and his attitude.

I am not impressed by Hamilton and that is historic. I was never a fan. Never will be. Russell hmmm, not fussed, Bottas and DannyRic are passed their use by date and Danny I never really got behind. I guess I always felt it was more car than him.

However I have no out and out favourite, no single guy since Kimi Raikkonen retired. I was a fan of Kimi from before his first FP1 at Albert Park in 2001, albeit I guess not long before given his limited pre F1 career. It might even have been pre raceweek interviews although IIRC it was when he tested for and impressed Peter Sauber straight from Formula Renault. I recall the controversy over his license. That there was controversy in terms of bureaucracy would only have made me like him more.

Again with him I was at FP1 that year and said to friends I was with (it was before my internet days began) that he was a future WDC, and I loved his carefree 'give a shit; attitude throughout his career. There is no one that I havee been a one eyed can do no wrong type supporter of since and i see no one currently to take his mantle.

As for teams, like Raikkonent, Lauda and Clarke before were the few that were hero figures, I have had few hero teams. BRM was ale=ways my favourite. Brabham I liked. I spent many hours in my teenage years at their workshops down by the river very close to where my parents lived. I went off Brabham when a Mr Ron Dennis, then a Brabham engineer, banned me and told me to go home and do my homework. As a resultI hated McLaren even when Kimi drove for them. But with teams I always had a soft spot for underdogs I guess. It was easy to like teams back in the day, the Arrows, Shadows, Hesketh, Tyrrell and many many more
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Which is all a bit of a long winded way of saying I have no individual favourite.... I find qualities in or reasons to like most of them in some way. There are only one or two I dislike.. :wink:
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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 weeks ago
Aty wrote: 2 weeks ago I like papayas fruits, but the same colour on the car is not my thing, yet there is something to it, and good to have on the car in race, say experts. I do recall decades old analysis which rated this colour as best in terms of visibility in abnormal road conditions. I wonder if it makes any difference in night racing under the lights.

I had fun when Max was winning, and now Mr. Everso took over as his guy is shining. (I hope not for too long.) :smiley:
I dont really have a driver I like over others by any margin. I like Norris.... perhaps because may years ago when as a junior I picked him as a future star in the making. I was impressed by him when he drove Formula Toyota in New Zealand back in I would say early 2016. I made comment here on the forum. I am aware that he had a lot of family wealth invested in him which detracts a bit. I like Albon as I think he is a nice guy I like Piastri as he is from a nearby suburb in Melbourne to where I live. I like Sergio for reasons I dont know. KMag the same, and to an extent Hulkenberg. I quite like Max and admire his undoubted talents, although I see flaws in his greatness. I like Alonso and his attitude.

I am not impressed by Hamilton and that is historic. I was never a fan. Never will be. Russell hmmm, not fussed, Bottas and DannyRic are passed their use by date and Danny I never really got behind.

However I have no out and out favourite, no single guy since Kimi Raikkonen retired. I was a fan of Kimi from before his first FP1 at Albert Park in 2001, albeit not long before. It might even have been pre raceweek interviews and IIRC it was when he tested for and impressed Peter Sauber. I recall the controversy over his license.

Again with him I was at FP1 that year and said to friends I was with (it was before my internet days began) that he was a future WDC, and I loved his carefree 'give a shit; attitude throughout his career. There is no one

As for teams, like Raikkonent, Lauda and Clarke before, I have had few hero teams. BRM was ale=ways my favourite. Brabham I liked. I spent many hours in my teenage years at their workshops down by the river very close to where my parents lived. I went off Brabham when a Mr Ron Dennis, then a Brabham engineer, banned me and told me to go home and do my homework. As a resultI hated McLaren even when Kimi drove.
for them.

Which is all a bit of a long winded way of saying I have no individual favourite.... I find qualities in or reasons to like most of them in some way. There are only one or two I dislike.. :wink:
We have more in common than we realize. :haha:

Max is meanwhile losing about 1M each race.
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Sauber is not bringing any upgrades to Singapore. Hard to say whether this makes any difference on race result. There were some discouraging remarks made about track surface, and wheels potentially losing contact with the road. Makes one wonder how this develops over the weekend. Hopefully safely.
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I wont be around for much of the action this weekend, although being a night race I might just be back in time for that. Certainly I will be in transit from about one hours time from now through to then. I ronically I will be transiting Singapore on Sunday, albeit pre race time.

Will it be Ferraris turn for fun this weekend (Sainz won last year) or will McLaren continue their current streak. Of course there is a chance that Red Bull might strike back although their form here last year let alone their form of recent races would suggest not. Im not prepared to write them off though, especially given the gains made on the car for Baku, with Sergio anyway. All Max has to do is take some set up clues from Sergio. :wink:

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