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Bottom post of the previous page:

Aty wrote: 1 week ago Interesting (tabloid) rumor:
Newey remains loyal to Red Bull
However, according to information from F1-Insider.com, this bond of friendship has now cooled. Newey is said to have already informed Red Bull that he will remain loyal to the world championship team even without Horner. So it seems that at least Red Bull's technical mastermind is staying. What will happen to Horner remains to be seen until the investigation's results are released.
Not too long ago it was Horner who claimed that Newey will be involved in "other" projects. No more F1.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/259216/n ... acing.html
He has already been involved in other "None F1" projects for many years. First one that comes to mind in the Aston Martin Valkyrie Prototype Race and multi million dollar V12 1000hp road and track car. That was very much his baby and although spawned when Red Bull were backed by Red Bull, Newey continued to be the leading man in the project even after Aston Martin set up as their own F1 Team.

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His previous dabble with Ben Ainslie's America's Cup project is well known. He was even approached by an American organisation to design a space rocket.
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“But I find motor racing more fascinating. There’s a tremendous pace of development and involvement in motor racing. I like that.”

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 1 week ago
Aty wrote: 1 week ago Interesting (tabloid) rumor:
Newey remains loyal to Red Bull
However, according to information from F1-Insider.com, this bond of friendship has now cooled. Newey is said to have already informed Red Bull that he will remain loyal to the world championship team even without Horner. So it seems that at least Red Bull's technical mastermind is staying. What will happen to Horner remains to be seen until the investigation's results are released.
Not too long ago it was Horner who claimed that Newey will be involved in "other" projects. No more F1.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/259216/n ... acing.html
He has already been involved in other "None F1" projects for many years. First one that comes to mind in the Aston Martin Valkyrie Prototype Race and multi million dollar V12 1000hp road and track car. That was very much his baby and although spawned when Red Bull were backed by Red Bull, Newey continued to be the leading man in the project even after Aston Martin set up as their own F1 Team.

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His previous dabble with Ben Ainslie's America's Cup project is well known. He was even approached by an American organisation to design a space rocket.
“Actually, an American company did ring me up to ask if I would be interested in joining them to work on a spacecraft.
“It would be fascinating, and the space race in the ’60s must have been incredibly stimulating.

“But I find motor racing more fascinating. There’s a tremendous pace of development and involvement in motor racing. I like that.”
I was aware of some projects Newey has been involved. Point was adressing littany should Horner leave RB with Newey, it would spell disastrous for RB. In reality Horner can be replaced (a name was already proposed), and regarding Newey, whether he stays or leave, at the end it should matter little. Vehicle engineering is run by other capable people already for some time.
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F1 drivers and their super licence fees. Bizarre system behind F1 super licence fees. Max Verstappen has to pay over €1 million while Logan Sargeant pays less than €13,000.
Bizarre seems right word for it. More successful you are, more punishment you deserve? Is that's what they teach at Harvard MBA program these days? But, I should not be surprised. That's coming from the same people who do suggest (seriously) better you drive in a race, furher you should be pushed back on the grid to start next one. Good work is rewarded.
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Aty wrote: 1 week ago
F1 drivers and their super licence fees. Bizarre system behind F1 super licence fees. Max Verstappen has to pay over €1 million while Logan Sargeant pays less than €13,000.
Bizarre seems right word for it. More successful you are, more punishment you deserve? Is that's what they teach at Harvard MBA program these days? But, I should not be surprised. That's coming from the same people who do suggest (seriously) better you drive in a race, furher you should be pushed back on the grid to start next one. Good work is rewarded.
Or maybe it's a forced sponsorship of the younger drivers? Knowing they have far less sponsorship (and wages and race prize winnings), the license fee is subsidised by the more experienced and successful drivers.
So it's license fee socialism.
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XcraigX wrote: 1 week ago
Aty wrote: 1 week ago
F1 drivers and their super licence fees. Bizarre system behind F1 super licence fees. Max Verstappen has to pay over €1 million while Logan Sargeant pays less than €13,000.
Bizarre seems right word for it. More successful you are, more punishment you deserve? Is that's what they teach at Harvard MBA program these days? But, I should not be surprised. That's coming from the same people who do suggest (seriously) better you drive in a race, furher you should be pushed back on the grid to start next one. Good work is rewarded.
Or maybe it's a forced sponsorship of the younger drivers? Knowing they have far less sponsorship (and wages and race prize winnings), the license fee is subsidised by the more experienced and successful drivers.
So it's license fee socialism.
Nuts.
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It is a version of a "progressive tax." The alternative is a "flat tax" which is currently practiced by one country in the world that I am aware of (Russia).
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Every day we "learn". Toto was seen talking to Briatore. It follows, Alonso is the "chosen one". That doesn't make me happy, because I am still hoping for Seb vs.2
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Well @Everso Biggyballies it looks like you could be right about young Kimi if this is to be believed ;) I told you I was going to keep an eye on him :cool:


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In re: Hamilton exit ‘a mystery’ admits former Mercedes boss (Norber Haug)

https://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view ... edes_boss/

Neither Norbert or Alonso are great believers in story about "childhood dream to drive red car". There is something else hiden out of public eye, thinks Haug.
“But a team like Mercedes must have its own identity, and we will always have that in the future.”
At last someone makes sense. For whatever it's worth, I still think two factors did it. Contractual conditions, and money. Elkann got himself a hot potato, and he can only hope Fred will handle it for him. He should think about what Norbert said about team identity. Making Leclerc miserable might prove not the wisest idea of the day.
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Re Lewis, Its money full stop. Alonso said Lewis was committed tto Mercedes two months ago.
Lets not forget not only is Lewis receiving a wage a lot higher than Max (80 million euros base wage plus bonuses) through Ferrari, Plus a pledge of 20 mill pa to his Mission 44 Project.

But wait, there is more.....
Total package I read to be c 450 million over the 2-3 year duration of his contract. Cant remember the exact details but it was something to do with the Agnelli descendants company (Exor) establishing a joint investment fund aimed at funnelling 250 million euros into Hamilton's future projects whatever they might be.

Elkann wanted Hamilton so bad, and it seems the offer kept getting better every time Lewis talked to him.

Its nothing to do with boyhood dreams or any schmaltzy crap like that. It is purely a financially driven thing.

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Again, remind me why (of all people!) Hammy would do anything for money?

Tell me you don't understand, or you don't care, but stop this BS about "it's all about money". :sarcasm:
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